Vienna
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Hello to all, from the Empire of Montana....
I'm a middle-aged woman and a disabled veteran who suffered a back injury while on active military duty in 2006. Since this is a chronic and permanent condition, my pain management doc suggested both gentle yoga and Zen meditation. I'm a non-Buddhist but am still empowered by Zen beliefs and practices. I sit zazen and practice yoga stretching exercizes twice daily. Meditation has helped me feel very well and has enabled me to stay free of narcotic medication. I'm not a fan of back surgery, either. My husband of 18 years is a physician who doesn't practice Zen but fully endorses my participation.
Since I'm new to the forum, I have a basic question: For those of you who sit zazen, do you believe that sitting upright for 30-45 minutes is the only way to use these techniques? I have known Zen "purists" who say that this posture is absolutely essential, and others say that if one has to lie down, then do so. I can sit upright zazen for only 10-15 minutes with my back propped against the wall, and then I have to switch postures. Am I using meditation to the fullest?
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas!
Best,
Vienna
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Hi Vienna,
I cannot help with Zazen as I am self taught with several blended styles (mostly similar to transcendental meditation), but I can tell you that I have achieved very solid results without conforming to any purist way of meditating. I've found that the different styles can guide you, but you should find or create the style that works best for you.
I have meditated very well laying down before in the daytime when i'm not tired, but I choose not to do that regularly because I meditate at night when my melatonin levels are higher and it would make me sleepy.
My suggestion would be to try and meditate at a time when there is no chance of being tired, that way you can get into a comfortable position and still maintain your focus and awareness on meditation (while laying down for example)
Good luck!
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vir
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Postures are important,but not as much.You must relax,and be there.If you are not comfortable with the posture,you will never be there.So no meditation is possible.
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hie vienna first thing in meditation is posture but its not always possible for some people to sit upright for more than 20 minutes due to some problem so one can either do walking meditation or even tai chi or sitting on chair .What basically is important in meditation are thoughts and that you maintain complete awareness in meditation posture helps you to remain awake during meditation sometimes it feels good.Also try to be alert while doing anything i.e mindfulness everytime it is a meditation in itself ...concentration on breath and anything are just first steps towards meditation ,true meditation comes by remaining aware and mindful of all thoughts ,emotions and so on.Be observer as if you are watching clouds or a bird flying do not try force fight against any thought just accept them as they are .......try practicing this you will understand more for more details read j.krishnamurti articles or books like freedom from know or flight of the eagle.
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Zazen (Sitting in Zen meditation) focuses on attentiveness, which is the heart of most forms of meditation. The mind is restless. It keeps wandering. One moment you are thinking one thing and the next moment a new thought arises. Inwardly we are often absent. Our minds are permanently busy with demands, illusions, desires and other distractions. However thinking about life is not the same as life itself. It is essential to immerse yourself in the moment and to become as one with whatever may be, in daily life or during Zazen (Sitting in silence).
The breath
Attention in Zen meditation concentrates on breath and body. In this abdominal breathing is of major significance. It connects body and mind and helps to explore the deeper levels of existence. Respiration through the nose down to the diaphragm centers and relaxes the mind. During expiration the slow extended length of the breath is particularly supportive. With each out-breath there is a sense of “letting go”, of breathing without any goal. One should also not manipulate the breath. It should be silent, slow and relaxed.
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